Episode 57 Pie - Savory Kinds and the Original Hot Pockets

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Listen to "057 Pie - Savory Kinds & the Original Hot Pockets" on Spreaker.

 

Link to the Episode:

First - the nursery rhymes:

Sing A Song of Six Pence (the blackbird pie one)

Sing a song of sixpence,

A pocket full of rye.

Four and twenty blackbirds 

Baked in a pie.

 

When the pie was opened,

The birds began to sing.

Wasn’t that a dainty dish

To set before the king?

 

The king was in his counting house, 

Counting out his money.

The Queen was in the parlor, 

Eating bread and honey.

 

The maid was in the garden,

Hanging out the clothes,

When along came a blackbird

and pecked off her nose.



The Queen of Hearts (here's the tarts & thievery one)

It's used as a early 20thC flour
advert and everything!

The queen of hearts 

She made some tarts

    All on a summers day.


The knave of hearts 

He stole those tarts 

    And took them clean away.


The King of Hearts

Called for the Tarts, 

    And beat the Knave full sore;


The Knave of Hearts 

Brought back the tarts

   And vowed he’d steal no more.





Second - the spelling guide.

At this point it is PIE & PYE, though PIE is favored, and there is some redirecting of the cook to consolidated spelling of PIE.

As for the the whole Sea Pie vs. Six-Crusts matter:

Sea Pie is where British Colonists, British Sailors & Americans end up at the end of the 18th century.  Mostly a boiled pie - on land or sea.  Layers of crust if you are fancy/in charge.  Layers of hardtack or biscuit if you sleep in a hammock. 

Cipaille / Cipâtes is mostly what you'll find in Quebec and Sea Pie in the Maritimes.  These are BAKED pies.  They usually have a top and bottom crust. 
The layers of pastry in the middle depends.
The number of meats depends.
The addition of spices besides salt and pepper depends.
The use of vegetables other than onion depends.
The use of salt pork or (unsmoked) bacon can be depended upon.

Six-pâtes is the unabashedly fancy pie.  Likely you should be wearing a wig and a beauty spot to eat it (all genders and sexes).

Third - the onboard silver cooker on Master & Commander: Far Side of the World.

My bad.  The steward is using a charcoal brasier.  Another fancy cooking tool for fancy people.  Charcoal always more costly than wood.  Only the officers get that - and usually only the captain.


But notice that food is steamed - not properly baked.  There will be no crispy crust!



Fourth - Hot Pockets!


Please note how the hand pie is adapting to American Tastes:

Sure - I'll be a sandwich & a hand pie.  
I can do both.

Why yes!  Hand Pies and your newest kitchen appliance were made for each other.


Fifth - the Pie Fillin's as Crock-Pot & Casserole Fodder lives on and is strong.

Diana Rattray presenting a good attempt at modern prettiness
with the Crockpot Ham and Potato Casserole
(both words in one recipe!)


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